September 23, 2006 - Msg 45735: Beautiful poem, Tom, as always. Thanks! --Romeena
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45736: Ooh, I swept! I hope everyone appreciates the effort, and I'm so tired after working all night, too. See how much I love you folks? But then, that's how nurses are - self-sacrificing right to the end! (teehee) --Romeena
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45737: Right! Glad your home, RO. Hope you get some good sleep. Did anyone see the news about the three newborns in Indianappolis (I think) who died in the hospital from a medication error? Horrible. Six babies were given lethal doses of Heparin by mistake. Three died and three survived. The pharmacy delivered the wrong vials and the nurses never looked at the vial before drawing up and administering the Heparin. Very scary. Nurses are trained to strictly read labels on vials before administering them to patients. I guess they got a bit lazy with the routine...so sad. I almost made a deadly error that way one time, but thank God I didn't. My first year of working as a nurse, we had this med-cart that contained the patient's meds and supplies needed to administer meds. On top of the cart, there was always a vial of what's called Normal Saline, which we drew up and used to flush IV's. Normal Saline is perfectly safe. Well, one day I drew up the Normal Saline in a syringe and went my merry way to flush an elderly cardiac patient's IV and was quickly out of the room. When I got back down the hall to the med cart, I noticed that there were 2 vials on the cart that looked almost identical. One was Normal Saline and the other was Potassium Chloride (that is sometimes added to IV solution in small dosages). Injecting a good dose of Potassium Chloride into someone can kill them. I felt the blood run from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet because I didn't remember looking at the vial before I drew up the Normal Saline (or was it Potassium Chloride??!)...I must have been a sight running down to that patient's room to see if he was still alive! Thank God I had given him the Normal Saling after all. I then went back to the med cart and removed the Potassium and did my best to remind others to read the vials before administering anything to the patients. It was such a frightening experience that it forever cemented the importance of staying alert and reading labels...never taking anything for granted because you really can kill someone with carelessness.

That is some story about the pregnant couple and Denny's. I have seen alot of that kind of thing, too. I remember one young couple coming to the hospital because the guy had beaten up his girlfriend. Test were done to be sure the baby was ok and the authorities were notified. When they came, the girl denied everything and as hard as everyone tried (including the doctor), the girl left with the boyfriend. She came back a day later with a dead baby after being kicked in the abdomen. I can't remember what happened to the guy after that.

Boo
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45738: Hey my friend Boo,Thanks TOM,hey ro,Rev,lucy,mil,m-t,Romeena get some rest, I go ion at 6pm tonight for 12,same tomorrow..will keep the lights on!...supper menu:BBQ chicken on the grill with Rev"s sauce..green beans,cream corn,green onions,Big Maude slaw and what ever mil bakes!...will holler from work.prayers...SPOT
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45739: Spot....I'm bakin' peach pies today!
Mil
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45740: Hi Millie.
How about a pumpkins oin for this time of year,
LOVE TOM

September 23, 2006 - Msg 45741: Evenin' Porch,
Just thought I'd stop and sit a spell. After our nice days we're warmin' up a tad. I had to close the windows for the 1st time in a week and turn on the a/c. Nick played paintball today for 6 hrs.! Bryson and I went to a local Dairy (Cagle's-Spot). We took a tour, rode on a hayride, got some chocolate milk, watched a pig race, and walked through a corn maize. Thank God for my scripture and sports knowledge b/c that's how we made it through! My ankle was killing me after all that walking. Tonight I'm just gonna fold laundry and get it put away while watching either the britcoms or a movie.
Millie- I'll take a slice of pie.
Colt- Are you still doing your Mayberry bible study?
Me-They- What did you do for your anniversary?
Tom- I like pumpkin pie also.
Romeena- Got the address and will mail on Tuesday.
Boo- Feelin' better?
I'll check back in later after the delicious supper Spot makes.
Blessings to you and yours,
~Lucy
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45742:
Boy, after all those stories, I am sure glad that I do go by my mom's so much. BTW, some of you may recall that i thought i was going to lose her in March. Well, she continues to improve, tho still last stage alz. She sits and smiles a all who approach her. The Lord has His reasons for this, and i know that one day i will know. She has been a blessing to so many. I think it was Asa whose dad went this way. It can be tough at times for SURE. So between that and the job situation, things add up, but my faith has remained strong thru it all. Thanks again to this porch and the prayers of Colt, Boo, ky girl, Ro, spot, Tom and A-L-L of you!!!
God bless. Prayers continue for Millie's healing too. have any of you read the Purpose driven Life?
BOO and RO, I'm still waiting for you to tell us how you REALLY feel! haha (You'll have to chip in and buy floyd more server space, teehee)
Do you all think I should give Colt a call and check up on him?
Well, have a great day my friends,
MDC
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45743:
Oops, hey Lucy, didnt mean to rock forward on ya!
MDC
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45744:
Thank God for those chocolate milk cows! haha mdc
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45745: Thanks Mil, that will be a good pie....SPOT
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45746: I'm feeling better, thanks Lucy. Still have lots of sinus troubles and a cough but my throat is much better. Sounds like you had a nice time at the Dairy!

MDC, I am glad you mom seems happy in her situation and not anxious. She is blessed to have a good son watching out for her. By the way, you are right about Ro and me, we really should speak out more about things....heehee.

It doesn't seem like it has been too long since we heard from Colt but I sure wonder what happened to ASA. I guess I could send him an email.

Better go!

Boo
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45747: Maybe Asa got too big for the Gigolo Club over in Yancey & decided to take his act on the road! Ha!
We haven't heard from him in awhile,for sure,but I think Colt has been on the Porch recently.
Boo,I heard about those babies being given the wrong dosage.They were premature babies and were given the adult dosage.I saw a picture of the vials-label on adult vial was DARK blue,the infant vial was PALE blue. I know that to err is human,but my goodness! What a shame.
The story about the patient & baby dying from the abruption caused me to once again praise God that my daughter is still here and that Laci was even born.She had an emergency C-section due to placental abruption.God was good to us that September morning-He is good ALL the time!
Y'all have a good night! Oh,and if anybody comes across Asa doing his act somewhere,send him home to the Porch!
*****SMILES*****
possum under a rock


September 23, 2006 - Msg 45748: I remember that about Laci, Possum. Thank God she and her mom are ok. Yes, it was unfortunate that the nurses took for granted that the vials were the same as always. I feel sorry for everyone involved in that terrible tragedy.

Well, I'm thinking about taking some of the elixer and going to bed early tonight. Still coughing...

Boo

PS-hmmm, that could be true about ASA and the Gigolo Club in Yancey...maybe he is on the road with his mullet!
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45749: I didn't see that story, Boo, but I can see how it could happen. Also the KCl incident. Several years ago there were several incidents in the news involving misuse of KCl, and as a result, it is no longer available on the nursing units in vials. If an IV with KCl as an additive is ordered, it comes in a pre-mixed bag from pharmacy. It's not even mixed in the pharmacy, it is supplied that way from the maker. I think that may now be a nationwide thing. I can't think of a scenario on a nursing unit where a vial of KCl would be needed, other than to add to an IV, so having it pre-mixed solves the problem.

Terrible about those babies, so tragic. Little lives lost, parents devastated, but someone else is shattered, too. The nurse or nurses involved will never get over it. The legal action, assuming there is some taken, will be nothing to the guilt and anguish those women or men will feel for the rest of their lives. I pray God's blessing and comfort for everyone involved, staff and families alike.

Well, back to the TAGS marathon on TVLand. Bless their hearts! Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45750: To Boo Msg 45726, don't worry about that lengthy post. You offered some great potentially life saving advice. I enjoyed every word of it.

And to Romeena Msg 45734, the same goes for your lengthy post. The advice was worth every word. Next time I visit the ER, I'll ask for a limo ride home (via Denny's).

To Tom Msg 45732, I'll remember your sister's mother-in-law in my prayers. I've noticed how different your postings are looking lately.

To Boo Msg 45737, that was one scary incident and one sad story you related in your post. When my dad worked as a hospital security guard, and my sister worked as a ward and P.A.R. nurse, they would relate similar scary and sad stories, with some humorous stories mixed in.

Allow me to offer some great potentially life saving advice as well. Whenever you have a loved one getting a prescription filled, open the bottle and confirm that the pill size number stamped on the pills match the pill size on the label. Once my mother took the first pill of a new prescription before I had the chance to check it. When I did, I noticed the pill size was double the pill size listed on the label. A quick telephone to her doctor confirmed that the overdose was not life-threatening. However, you should have seen the embarrased look on the pharmacist's face when I returned the bottle.

You know it's sad when you think about how dangerous hospitals are in such a technologically advanced country like ours. I've seen documentaries of how residents go through training with so little sleep, and nurses performing their jobs so short handed or with lesser trained (and cheaper) assistants. How can you reduce mistakes when it seems like the stress levels are only increasing?

from Poor Horatio
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45751: Glad your feeling better Boo...hey Horatio and all...late night snack...M&M"s and mild..[whole mayfield]...Im gona get on the tractor and go find Asa and Colt....rain heading to Ga..SPOT
September 23, 2006 - Msg 45752:
Hello porch. Been a busy day around here.

Wow...those are some wild stories about the hospital.

I was in a wedding today. I normally don't do weddings because I'm just not able to schedule around them. But this young girl that pretty much grew up in our house with our daughter asked me to be in the wedding so I had to. It's hard to believe that they grow up so fast.

Gas here...$1.98 today...keep it coming down.

Everyone get a good nights rest and have a great worship service. Prayers for all our porch family.
-REV.
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45753: Good Morning Porch! Hope you all are happy and well. I'm okay, a few problems, but nothing too bad. Can't wait for church this morning, I just may have to go to 8:30 services....See y'all later!
Millie
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45754: Prayers to all this Sunday Morning..rain here in ga..breakfast will be eggs your way,bacon,sausage,bisquits and gravy,hashbrowns,grits and Oj and coffee....
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45755: that was me...SPOT
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45756: Breakfast sounds yummy, Spot.
Have a great day, Millie
That's sound advice, Poor Horatio
I just have a request. Can we all not talk about these babies dying and such? If y'all remember it was in 8/04 that I lost my baby, Nathaniel, to negligence by the hospital. I love to talk about him, and babies in general, but not about their dying. Please don't anyone feel bad, because I know y'all are good hearted people. Let's just say its terrible for all involved and they need our prayers.
I need to get the kiddos up and ready for church. Have a great day!
Blessings to you and yours,
~Lucy
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45757: Good Sabbath Morning to you all! Hope everyone is having a fine day, it's pretty cool here, but nice, real nice. Getting ready to head to DC tomorrow for the week, hope gas prices just keep going down. 2.16 here in my neck of the woods yesterday. Prayers for those who need them, best go get some things done, I have been working 6 days a week for the past month & I sure could use Malcolm Merriweather about now. Hope the Good Lord will understand that I HAVE to clean these carpets today, I hate doing anything like that on Sun, but I don't have another day to do it. He'll understand, right?
*Mavis
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45758: Oh, Lucy, I am so sorry. How insensitive can we be? Honestly, dear, it never entered my mind, and that may just be the worst offense of all. Please forgive me. --Romeena
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45759: To Lucy Msg 45756, we all have different levels of bereavement. I pray that someday you will achieve peace about your loss to be able to discuss such sensitive subjects, especially if it can help others. In the meantime, I will honor your request for as long as you desire.

from Poor Horatio
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45760: So sorry, Lucy. It had somehow slipped my mind about your grief or the subject never would have been mentioned. I'm very sorry.

Boo
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45761: Lucy - I do understand your pain.

Mavis - we paid $1.95 today for gas. . .under the $2 mark, didn't think I'd see that happen.

Been a busy day here - goat auction yesterday and catching up today. Saw Mitch McVickers in concert last nite. He's a Christian musician. Pretty good. . .


Take care. . .

homemaker
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45762: Homemaker, did you say Mitch McVICKers?! With a name like that, I know I would like him.

Now I have seen it all! Did any of you see that new program on TLC called, My Three Wives? I just couldn't believe it. Some people have some serious issues.

Gonna go hit the shower and then the elixer. Night gang,

Boo
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45763: Hey Luch,mavis,ro,hm,horatio and all..have we heard from Asa!..im here at work...rain here but all lights are on...got to get the sea ray boat put in storage tomorrow...covered up and put away...will still have the pontoon all winter on the lake to fish!..fish frys in the winter for us!...snack will be crackers and peanut butter and Milk....Hm did ya get rid of alot of goats?..do you sell them to eat?...[or is that a bad question?}...back in a bit....SPOT
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45764: We have not heard from ASA, Spot. I have his email but only because he sent me something once. I don't know how he would feel about someone emailing him, but if we don't hear from him by tomorrow I am going to try it.

Waiting for the elixer to hit....I went outside to sit for awhil because it is nice out, finally cooled off some but the mosquitos are terrible from all the rain. It's worth it, though. You should see how green everything is! I always say Fall and Spring are beautiful in Texas. The trees stay green all year around here but in the summer and winter the grass tends to get brown. The springtime is gorgeous...wildflowers like you have never seen before.

Wish Lucy would check in again. I hope she isn't still feeling down. Bless her sweet heart, she has so much to deal with. May God give her peace and joy in her heart amidst the trials.

Mavis, there is one thing about God, not only is he understanding, but forgiving so he's gotcha covered, Sister. I was telling my husband at lunch that never in my life did God ever turn out to be anything but even better than I expected him to be (make sense)? He is full of the most wonderful surprises when it comes to love and grace.

Boo

VICKS!
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45765:
Hello gang. Wow...what a race today. Matt and Jeff really put on a show there at the last. Too bad Matt ran short on gas.
Watching Denver and New England now. Pretty good game.
Spot...thanks for the snack...did that milk come from HM's goats?
Speaking of that...HM...do you have milking goats? Goat milk is supose to be really good for you.
Well better get going for now. You all take care and know that I am praying for the porch!
-REV.
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45766:
Hey Boo...sorry for rocking on ya. Praying that you feel better. Come on elixer and kick in!
You are so right about our wonderful GOD!
-REV.
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45767: hi everyone.Hope you all had a nice sunday,i finally got to church and sunday school this week,we were sick all last week,so I missed sunday and wed services,and,I really don't like missing church.Went today,and,now things feel right again.Thank you for all your prayers.Gotta close and get my kids to sleep-ky girl
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45768: Hey, all! I emailed Asa this afternoon - we do exchange emails fairly often - but he hasn't replied yet. Why do I think I remember him saying he was going to be gone for a while? Does anyone else remember that? --Romeena
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45769: so where is millie tonight
September 24, 2006 - Msg 45770: According to Asa's last post on September 11 (Msg 45291), he stated "Me and the Mrs. are off to Southern California tomorrow morning for a week on the coast."
But it's been now 14 days since he posted that message.

from Poor Horatio
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45771: I'm rightcheer! Busy, Busy.....watching the mini TAGS marathon while I do chores and make pies....more in a bit. Spot, you working tonight?
Millie
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45772: what pies are you making
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45773: Hello? Who's that?
Mil
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45774: millie i'm bored looking for you
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45775: Yea Millie im here...dont know whow msg 45774 was...twas-not I...Color epts....there ok...I get off in the morning at 6 am off till thu...North Georgia state fair is in town..Miss Sherry and I are going tue night..SPOT
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45776: Hey Spot...I'm enjoying the color eps, I guess because I haven't seen them as much. I can't wait for the State Fair, either. A big family day. You and Miss Sherry have fun.
Millie
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45777: Moring Gang get up!..my night and work week is about done..will be off till thu...prayers for a all a safe blessed week...breakfast menu: Shoneys breakfast buffett!..on me...sure hope Colt and Asa show up!...Big Maude you too....well see ya at the Big Boy!....horatio come on you drive....SPOT
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45778: Mornin' Porch,
Quick rockin' action. Don't worry about talking about those poor babies dying. I'm sorry I brought it up. My husband happened to say last week that though we lost a son we gained one. So, that's been upsetting me, because I wonder if Nathaniel would give me the same grief as Nick. 2 of my friends almost lost their babies during labor only 4 days after Nathan's birthday, and they both said they knew if they lost their babies they could make it because I did. A book I got from the library had the main character's name as Nathan. And, Bryson asked me if we can have another brother because he hates Nick. Then, this is insult to injury about the other babies dying. I'm just a tad sensitive also because yesterday I was called a liar by Nick. Again, I'm sorry for saying anything. I feel so bad for these mother's because I know exactly how they feel. I wish that I could help them. PH, I would love to help anyone who has lost children at any stage. This just cut me to the core during a bad time.
Well, I need to get busy with chores and phone calls. It should be another beautiful day.
Blessings,
~Lucy
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45779: Good morning porchesters, Hope all is well this Monday morning. Back at work today and getting my day started. nice fall weather here today, supposed to be around 47 in the morning. Gas is $2.18 here.. hope it keeps going down! Thanks for the pies Millie, hope you are doing okay.
Hope you and Miss Sherry have a good time at the fair, SPOT. Lunch will be at my place today: homemade vegetable soup, grilled cheese sandwhiches, bread and butter pickles, brownies and beverage of your choice. come on about noon.
see you then. have a blessed day. Big Maude
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45780: Good morning, all. Lucy, I think you are very brave. I have never lost a child, but I've lost a grandchild, and watched my son and his wife endure the loss, so I have some idea what you've been through. It's awful, and like I said about losing my husband, it never gets easy, it just gets less hard. My son and DIL got involved in an organization called MEND, a support group for parents who have lost infants or small children, and it helped a lot. Our little Logan would have been four last week, and I'm happy to say that the parents are moving on, but they are still involved with MEND. My DIL now serves on the board of directors. She remains involved now, not so much because she needs help, but for the help she can provide for others. Sounds like you're approaching the same stage of recovery.
As for Nick, just how much are you going to take off that kid before it's enough? This is none of my business, and I may be totally out of line, but I'm going to say it. It's time for your husband to stand up to him and defend you, and time for you to lay down some rules regarding what behavior you will not accept. If you don't, he's going to spiral out of control even worse than he already has. I know he's had a rough life, and a ridiculous excuse for a mother. Tough. Lots of people could say that, but they don't take it out on the people who are trying to be kind to them. Some do, but many don't.
In my opinion, if you don't set some limits on him now at home, it won't be long until the law will be setting some real limits. He will have no real respect for himself until he learns some respect for other people. I assume your husband is still bigger than Nick? Sorry, but sometimes it comes down to that. I remember an occasion when one of our sons, fueled by new-found testosterone, bowed up and defied me one day, saying some hateful things and stomping around the house. My husband confronted him, towering over him until the kid just visibly shrank almost into his shoes. Then he said, "Not only is she your mother, and thereby deserving of your respect, but she is also my wife and I don't permit anyone to treat her that way, not even you. Especially not you!" End of rebellion. The fine man that kid became now relates that story and laughs, and says how much he appreciates his dad's intervention, because it set the stage for his attitude toward women today. He treats his wife like she was made of porcelain.

Well, those are my thoughts on the matter, for whatever they're worth. Probably not much, since I don't have all the details of the situation, but that's how it looks to me, based on what I do know.

Sugarplum says 10-4. --Romeena
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45781: It's okay, Lucy. We understand and care about what you are going through. I'm glad you can come here to talk.

Great story, Ro. In my husband's family they still talk about the time that Bruce's older brother Richard raised his hand to their mom. Dad was at work and Richard was about 17 at the time. He got mad about something and raised his hand to hit her. Well, Mom punched him so hard that she knocked him out right there in the kitchen. When Dad came home, he took Richard to the back window and pointed to the yard (Dad was a man of few words but was a man of action). He said, "You see that yard out there? If you ever touch my wife, I will bury you out there and noone will ever know about it. Do you understand me?"...Well, Richard never tried anything like that again (or any of the younger kids who saw what happened). Bruce and Richard grew up to be kind to the women in their lives. In fact, Richard has a very strong wife who wears the pants in that family. She is taller than him and could probably win in a fight! ha It is absolutely essential that boys, especially be made to respect women, and by the same token, I don't allow my kids to speak disrespectfully to or about my husand. I've seen what can happen to kids who never learn respect for parents (and parents who don't demand respect).

Better get back to the laundry...you need anything washed today, Me-They?

Boo

September 25, 2006 - Msg 45782: good morning honeys and dears. real busy again this week. gas in lincoln, illinois. 1.99 a gallon and from the looks of joy on peoples faces you'd think it was 25 cents a gallon. looks like everyones bust also. have a great week. just old colt
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45783: Hey Colt, glad to see ya. I filled my Suburban up yesterday for only 77.00 and almost danced a jig at the gas pump.

Boo
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45784: Hi All.
Nice day ,no rain for now
tom

September 25, 2006 - Msg 45785: Hey TOM,colt,boo,ro,prayers as always Lucy..Big Maude I LOVE homemade vegg. soup...make mine a big tupperware bowl full!..salt and pepper..dig that grill cheese in it ..ummm...thanks..well Im gona get the sea ray boat put up for the winter...I leave the pontoon at Red Top Mt. all year for fishing...great day here in Ga. mid 70"s and sunny...well to big Maudes for soup!...SPOT
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45786:
Hey there COLT, I was about to call ya. Check out the archives, I've got a few for you there.
My new job starts on Friday. First job i have ever had to do a drug test for. I feel strange about it, but i guess a lot of places are doing that these days.
DWF- where are you. I watched the dvds ep about Sally's date with Mr Fastbinder. It was a really good one about peoples emotions etc.
Today I cleaned house really good, dusted, vacuumed, kitchen floor etc. Wanted to do a good one before the new job starts.
Boo, thanks for your kind words about mom. Lord knows, you are facing some of it too. It has become a real labor of love. Quick question for ya. Do you shower in the AM too? I always need a quick one in the am and then one at night to "cool down!" ha
HM- do you by any chance have one of those little ceramic cow cream pitchers? I saw some in the store this weekend and for some reason thought of you.! haha
Spot and Maude, thanks for the grub. How about Outback soon?
APB for ASA and AFD. And where is MeThey today?
Deal or No Deal tonight, and dont forget prayertime later!
MDC

September 25, 2006 - Msg 45787: Oops, forgot to mention that we are actually having a little bit of fall here this year. Usually in Phoenix, it stays in the 100's til bout the first of October, but this year we have already had some 80s with about 65 at night. But they are saying now that we may be back to 100 by the end of the week. Well, it WAS nice while it lasted. HA. Hang in there all!
ole MDC
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45788: The Big Game ..Saints and My Falcons!!..hot wings are ready!...SPOT
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45789:
Since my Cards blew it with the Rams yeaterday, I'll say goooo Falcons!
MDC
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45790: Thanks MDC.....7 to 3 saints...blocked punt score for saints...droped TD for us but the 46 yr old mortin anderson got us 3...back to the game...SPOT
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45791: MDC - of all my collectibles - no I don't have a cow creamer. I do have a lot of old farmy type stuff (who would have thunk it). My most favorite is an early Montgomery Ward ice cream maker. It is about the size of a small pail and faded green.

I sympathize with you Lucy on your young roustabout - seeing kids at the jr. high and high school age - most have no respect for authority of any kind. Not all are bad but just a few bad apples can hurt a lot of kids. Limits are a must - from you, from DAD, and from anyone in authority. He cannot be allowed to terrorize your family - that isn't right.

Need to go to bed. . .the youngins are a calling!

homemaker
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45792: MDC, make sure you don't eat any poppy seeds (remember the Seinfeld episode?). As far as showers go, I always take one before bed but not always in the morning. As hot and humid as it is here, it depends. As soon as I drop the kids to school in the am, I start on the housework so taking a shower before that doesn't make much sense. Sometimes I take one in the afternoon before going out somewhere, and then again at night. I think that if I worked outside of the home, I would probably shower in the morning before dressing for work, though. Good luck with that new job!

Well, think I'll go find the VICKS and go to bed soon. I seem to be having an allergy attack tonight! Just took the allergy medicine the doc gave me last week.

Boo
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45793: Gettin' ready for bed. Its sad when you're only 29 and going to bed at 9:30! I alternate my showers. I take an epsom salt and aromatherapy bath most nights and showers every other morning. I hate bed head!
I think tonight hubby might have had an eye opener. You have to realize that he's been out of town 3 weekends this month for 4-5 days at a time. So, there's only so much he can do for disciplining Nick. He told Nick to do some work for him, highlighting hair analysis forms, and I reminded Nick to do them for paintball money. I didn't double check because he's been doing them for extra money all summer, but he didn't finish all of them,nor did he do them correctly. Hubby was madder than a hornet. I'm hoping with hubby being home for the next 3 wks that he'll be able to help. I tried to look nice for hubby since I hadn't seen him since Thursday, and I did except he said my eyes are hollow. He said I looked so far gone. I just said you have no idea. So, praying that he'll be able to help the situations.
I have a question. Does anyone know if Jesus talks about tithing in the New Testament?
Thank y'all for your prayers and thoughtful comments. I'm so glad that I have friends like you.
Blessings to you and yours,
~Lucy
GO FALCONS!
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45794: Speaking of Vicks, Kai wanted me to put some on her tonight just before bed. That's my girl!
Her nose has been a little stuffy lately anyway. That reminds me of a funny little thing that happened while she was sick, I think last winter. Well, we used Vicks on her of course. Then, a few weeks later, I noticed on her teddy bear - it's one of the Carebears, Funshine Bear, to be exact - that under it's nose it looked stained or dirty. When I asked her if she knew why it was like that, she replied that she put some Vicks under it's nose. What a sweetheart.

Had Kai's birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese this weekend, and she had a ball. Particularily because we took her best friend and another friend, both were from her preschool here and one goes to school with her now, along with us in the new used van we just bought. Imagine, three rambunctious 5-6 year old girls in the same car together. Yes, it got a bit loud at times, but they all had lots of fun so it was worth it.

Hey, MDC, don't sweat it. I had one of those drug tests at the insurance company I worked at years ago, and it was not as bad as I thought it would be. I thought I would be too nervous and "freeze" or something and not be able to do it, especially when the guy told me I couldn't close the stall door(so I wouldn't pull the old switcharoo). But he kind of put me at ease, telling me to just take my time, and telling stories about waiting hours for one of the guys he tested. He just brushed it off saying it was just part of his job. So, that made me relax and whoooosshh, it was done. Ok, so it didn't really make that sound, but you get the idea. ;)

Hope everyone has a nice night.

-Sterling Holobyte
September 25, 2006 - Msg 45795: Oh Hi lucy! Didn't mean to rock on your toes.:)
Hope things get better for you concerning Nick. Did you tell your hubby WHY you looked so far gone? That might help him help the situations too. We'll be praying for you.

-Sterling Holobyte

September 25, 2006 - Msg 45796: hi all,just stopping by for a minute before I go to bed.We had another nice fall day today,the temp was just right.spot,you and miss sherry enjoy the state fair,lucy,i'll keep you in my prayers,my oldest son was a handful when he was in his teens,and,even with his dads help,he caused me alot of worry!Dad could always keep him in line,but,they usually don't really start acting out until dad is away,I know from experience.I will keep you in my prayers,and,just to let you know,it can get better by setting those boundaries,doesn't mean he won't push them,doesn't mean he won't fight against them,the hardest part is sticking to it constantly and enforcing it.My oldest is grown now,and,now he looks back,and,says"i don't know why i did that!,but,it's not easy,by any means.i got counselors involved,which,if you get a good one,can help.it helped us in 2 ways,one,it gave my son someone else to answer to,and,to vent to,and,it was beneficial to me because,I had support in someone elses experience in dealing with the situation.And,and I'm not saying this to be preferential to anyone,male or female,but,with boys,they just need that male figure to relate to,so,if you can find a male counselor that would be great.Ok,sorry if that was too long folks,just trying to be helpful if i can.prayers for everyone-ky girl
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45797: Hey all!

Sorry for another long absense!

Im ok!

I'll try to be back tommaro!

Night!

Deputy Warren Ferguson
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45798: Hey Warren, good to hear from you.

Good to see you, too, KYGirl. Sounds like you have some good experience to share with Lucy. She is in a tough place.

Good advice on the old drug testing, Sterling! I had no idea you had to go in front of someone...I can see where that might be a problem. I guess drinking lots of water prior to the test might help. It sure was good to get an update on Kai...loved the Vicks story!

Lucy, I don't think Jesus adresses tithes, specifically but I could be wrong. I know he talks about giving offerings and "rendering unto God the things that are God's.."? Any of you seasoned bible scholars have an answer to that one?

I can't believe I am awake at 1:45! I was finally getting over all my junk from last week and now I seem to have either another cold or allergies. The allergy med didn't seem to help much. My nose is clogged and I can't sleep. Even Vicks can't help this time! I would make a pie like Millie usually does but I already made one last evening. Sean wanted a pumpkin pie so I made it for him. Also made chicken and dumplings so I have lots left over if you all want some for lunch later.

Maybe I'll try to go to sleep again...

Boo
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45799: Hi all..
I havent been on much..spend too much time on the computer..I think that is why I stopped coming a year or so ago..anyway..I'll be hit or miss I suppose.

Lucy: How old are these boys of yours? And you said you are 29? Me too..Does your hubby run a salon or something? i noticed you said something about highlighting hair anaylasis.

Well gotta get the kid ready for school.

take care..

Idelle
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45800: Good morning porch. Hope all is well this Tuesday morning. at work as usual and trying to get my day started, having a difficult time in doing so. seems like my get up and go has got up and went! anyone ever have that happen? wonder what causes that? I am ready for breakfast, thought maybe I would have breakfast at Shoneys this morning.. anyone want to join me. supposed to be a nice day today, nice fall temps. You guys have a blessed day and prayers to all. Big Maude
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45801: Good morning everyone! Beautiful day here. No time right now, but I'll stop back and have a "set" at lunchtime. Y'all sip some coffee for me.

Me-They
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45802: Hey to the PORCH! Hope Ya'll are doing well. I've been busier than ever with things...been in a revival all week, and have a concert this coming Satuday night (around the Dayton Ohio area if ya'll are around there) with the Dixie Melody Boys. Then have to be gone to New Jersey for a week!

Mrs Goober and Goobette is doing just fine...everything progressing as it should and still shooting for an end of November arrival.

Good to see everybody on...and I'm going to go read the archives a bit and catch up.

Hey to everyone...talk more soon!

Goober...
YO!!!
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45803: Good afternoon. I'm now a lot less busy and well-fed, so it's time to sit and jaw a spell.

LUCY: I hope that things are better this week. The Mrs. and I went out to dinner for our anniversary, while the kids were at Awana. Of course the baby tagged along. It was nothing special cuisine-wise but of course was special for what we were celebrating. We actually had plans to go out this weekend for a special night but it didn't pan out.

I think BOO's right about tithing in the New Testament. If I have time today I'll try and check it out further. That quote BOO mentioned about rendering the things that are God's to Him...of course, when it comes right down to it, everything is God's, right?

BOO: I'm all caught up on the laundry, but there's always ironing that needs to be done...

MDC: Watch out for strange brownies...

IDELLE: I understand not wanting to spend too much time on the computer. Just make sure you stop in from time to time and don't just drop out of sight for a year next time.

Where in the world is ASA? Have you heard anything, BOO?

Breaktimes over. See y'all.

Me-They
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45804: Hey Porch,
Boo- I hope you feel better. Is ragweed bad there right now? That's what typically causes my allergies in the fall, when I have them.
Idelle- Nick is 12 and Bryson's 8. My stepdaughter who lives with her Mother (thank the Lord) is 10. Hubby's a naturopathic doctor. One of the tests in his office uses hair analysis (which is not a useful tool) to determine peoples minerals.
KyGirl- He begins next week with a male counselor who specifically deals with anger issues.
Goober- I'm so glad that Mrs. Goober is doing well. November's right around the corner.
Big Maude- Are ya getting enough rest? Are ya tired of your job?
Sterling- Is Kai an only child? What kind of van did you get?
Spot- Have fun at Red Top.
DWF- Thanks for checking in.
APB for Fungirl and Asa
Blessings to you and yours,
~Lucy

September 26, 2006 - Msg 45805: Hey Me-They!
Hubby finds more truth in New Testament and that's why I was asking.
~Lu
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45806: Hey everybody. Good to hear from Goober and get an update on his doings and on the wife and Goobette. Praise the Lord everything is going well! Can't wait to see a picture of Goobette on Ro's photo site.

Hey Me-They, I hope you will be back later. I will have to come up with a controversial topic for you to discuss this week (just kidding). I think I will try to keep things light with all that Lucy has been going through. Did I tell you that I listened to the radio show on Homework that you pointed us to? I thought that guy was right on. What did you think? Yesterday my sister and I were talking about something. When I was homeschooling my son with learning dissabilities, being dyslexic he had a terrible time with learning to read so I hired a special tutor who worked him pretty hard but didn't seem to get very far and he hated it. She moved to Houston and couldn't help us anymore so we put him in the private school, where he learned at a slow but steady pace and no homework that first year. You wouldn't believe how he progressed with the reading. If you total it up, he has been in the private school for 14 months and yesterday in sunday school he volunteered to read a bible passage out of the King James bible and you should have heard him! It was nearly flawless. I really couldn't believe how well he read, better than many adults. Also, he just found a book that he loves to read and is reading on his own for the first time in his life and excited about it (he is 11). I really didn't think I would ever see that day come. He also still has that gift for memorization and recitation of bible verses. What I remembered yesterday, though, was a book I read on different methods of homeschooling and in the book people were talking about their children who couldn't seem to learn to read and they didn't push too hard but gave them time and space to pursue things that they were interested in learning. Without exception, all of those children were reading at about age 10 to 12 and reading at a higher grade level that their peers who read earlier.
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45807: Hey Folks....I think things should work okay now. I'm not sure what happened but it looks like there most have been a problem with our servers because Miss Crump's had problems as well.

--Floyd
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45808: Thanks Floyd, I thought maybe I had done something wrong by talking too much!

Boo
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45809:
Thanks Floyd! You deserve two chairs!
Hey boo, thought maybe you were trying to type in the shower and shorted out the servers! haha
That was funny about the poppy seeds. I saw that ep in syndication not too long ago!
That is interesting what you said about reading. About 15 years ago, I tutored several neighborhood children using "hooked on phonics."
One was a 15 year old who kept getting pushed thru. His mother knew I had taught, and i had just bought the program to help a nephew of mine!
Lucy, I know it comes up in Acts a few times.
Also Jesus told the parable of the widow's mite.
Goober, good to see ya, hope the revival is going well!
MeThey, Sterling- the test went fine, no funny browies, muffins etc. haha
Ya all have a good evening. Prayers for all tonight, Porchsters, troops, the world!
God Bless,
MDC

September 26, 2006 - Msg 45810: Hello to everyone.

Thanks to Floyd for fixing The Front Porch.

To Romeena Msg 45780 and Boo Msg 45781. If the parent has some kind of physical advantage over a troubled child, it does seem easy to use it to intimidate (subtly or blatantly) that child when disciplining him/her. But you also have to take into account what if the child calls the parent's bluff. Parents should only make statements that they have the ability to and are willing to follow through on. No threats of violence except when it comes to self defense. If the parent does not follow through when challenged, his/her credibility will diminish with that child and make disciplining harder the next time.

To Lucy Msg 45793, you asked if "tithing" is mentioned in the New Testament. Check out Deuteronomy Chapter 26, verses 11 through 13.

from Poor Horatio
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45811: Thanks Poor Horatio and MDC!
Night y'all!
Blessings,
~Lucy
P.S. I sent an email to a friend and when using ~ to sign I put Lucy Matthews instead of my real name!
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45812: I had to smile when I read your post PH because if you knew my late father-in-law, you would understand why his son took him seriously...he probably would have buried him. I remember once when one of his dogs bit one of the kids without provocation. My Father-in-law got his gun, took the dog out and shot it. He said he would never have any use for a dog who would bite a child without a good reason. He was from a rough and tough family of German immigrants who settled in the hill country of Texas. He had several brothers and sisters and they and his parents all lived in a one room house and if they ate, they had to hunt for it. He never was one to put up with nonsense from kids or dogs. He softened up alot in his later years and after he suffered a terrible stroke he became very sweet and caring. He even had a dog named Lizzie that he adored more than anything. One of his main concerns in life was that Lizzie be well cared for. He was also very kind and gentle to his grandchildren. But, I know what you are saying about the intimidation. Most people wouldn't actually kill their child so they shouldn't threaten to....we have to be realistic. In Ro's case, I think her husband did exactly the right thing and I am sure that if the boy had challenged him her husband would have known exactly what to do. Did you know that in the Old Testament laws of Moses, a parent could stone a kid to death for disrespect? Not that I would ever suggest something like that and the New Testament teaches differently but I think in God's eyes it must be very important that children honor and respect their parents. It is one thing we have to "nip in the bud" even with drastic measures, if needed. Just my opinion, of course.

Boo
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45813: Ha, Lucy....YOU ARE ONE OF US NOW!! hahaha

Boo
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45814: To Lucy Msg 45793, while my earlier post (Msg 45810) only mentions tithing in the Old Testament, I found the following internet sources that might help you with your quest.
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from Poor Horatio
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45815: To Boo Msg 45812, you bring up some interesting thoughts. The Old Testament has many rules authorizing killings of humans.
Exodus 21 mentions that an owner of a bull that has the habit of goring people must be stoned to death.
Leviticus 20 mentions that any medium or spiritist are to be stoned to death.
Leviticus 24 mentions that anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be stoned to death.
Numbers 35 mentions that anyone who kills must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 17 mentions that anyone who worships other gods must be stoned to death.
Deuteronomy 21 mentions that any man who has a stubborn and rebellious son must be stoned to death.
And the list goes on.
What happened to turn the other cheek?

from Poor Horatio
September 26, 2006 - Msg 45816: Sorry, but I made a mistake in my Msg 45815. Deuteronomy 21 mentions that any man who has a stubborn and revellious son must stone his son to death.

from Poor Horatio